What came first: the chicken or the egg?

Random, or rather classic, question of the 2-weeks!

Ummmm, neither? =D A chicken would've needed another to reproduce, and an egg would've needed nursing. I only see Yes/No on the poll. >=O


My Theory : Demented cross breeds made a chicken, OR weird birds evolved into them.

dd5000 wrote:

Ummmm, neither? =D A chicken would've needed another to reproduce, and an egg would've needed nursing. I only see Yes/No on the poll. >=O


My Theory : Demented cross breeds made a chicken, OR weird birds evolved into them.

The chicken has more possibility to live. Therefore, the chicken.

Chuck norris.
Jk I chose chicken

The chicken. My story! :D :::
Story 1:
The dinosaur mutated into a chicken after generations and evolutions. Then the chicken reproduced. :D

Story 2:
The gods ran away from the fear of the TYPHON (I think that is how you spell the name.) and to hide themselves, they turned into chickens. Then, the chickens reproduced. :D

Before wrote:

The chicken. My story! :D :::
Story 1:
The dinosaur mutated into a chicken after generations and evolutions. Then the chicken reproduced. :D

Story 2:
The gods ran away from the fear of the TYPHON (I think that is how you spell the name.) and to hide themselves, they turned into chickens. Then, the chickens reproduced. :D

Actually the believed ancestor of the chicken is the red funglefowl. (like junglefellow!)

So the egg might have come first throughout evolution... *groans at myself*

2 different type of birds making out (lol) creating the first nest of chicken eggs,...
and that began the race of chickens ?
just how i see it.

my theory is god
he amde all of animals once and they made babies :D

myfantasy wrote:

my theory is god
he amde all of animals once and they made babies :D

if there is only one of each animal how do they make babies ?
F3

shadowfluxx wrote:

myfantasy wrote:

my theory is god
he amde all of animals once and they made babies :D

if there is only one of each animal how do they make babies ?
F3

They can change their gender though...

Metawe wrote:

shadowfluxx wrote:

myfantasy wrote:

my theory is god
he amde all of animals once and they made babies :D

if there is only one of each animal how do they make babies ?
F3

They can change their gender though...

IMPOSSIBLE! :O If they were females, SOME can reproduce. If they were males, then SOME can reproduce. THE SPECIES WON'T INTERTWINE!!! :O Anyway, if it is a female, then how can it give birth to a male if it didn't.... mate with it? :O

Metawe wrote:

Actually the chicken can and does change sex, a well know fact among egg farms. The known occurences happen about every 1 in a 10,000. We have observed an egg-laying hen change into a crowing/breeding rooster. There are numerous explanations for this most having to do with the keeping the species going. But it is observed in egg-laying barns where no roosters have been present that a hen will change.

There are some animals that change sexes, but the chicken isn't one of them. I recall a marine biologist I once met telling me that all very large groupers -- the ones that weigh hundreds of pounds -- are females because only mature specimens can grow that large and all groupers change to females as they mature. It's called sequential hermaphroditism. When males turn into females, it's called protandry, and when it's the other way around, it's called protogyny. Only fish and some invertebrates demonstrate sequential hermaphroditism.

Eh... 1 in a 10,000 ... the first hen will change genders. :O Unlikely. If there are no roosters present, since the farmers "hide" the rooster from the hens to get eggs that are not fertilized, will the farmer's hens transform into a rooster then? o-o"
If the chicken cannot change genders.... then how can they change genders when you said 1 in a ten-thousand? :O

Before wrote:

Metawe wrote:

Actually the chicken can and does change sex, a well know fact among egg farms. The known occurences happen about every 1 in a 10,000. We have observed an egg-laying hen change into a crowing/breeding rooster. There are numerous explanations for this most having to do with the keeping the species going. But it is observed in egg-laying barns where no roosters have been present that a hen will change.

There are some animals that change sexes, but the chicken isn't one of them. I recall a marine biologist I once met telling me that all very large groupers -- the ones that weigh hundreds of pounds -- are females because only mature specimens can grow that large and all groupers change to females as they mature. It's called sequential hermaphroditism. When males turn into females, it's called protandry, and when it's the other way around, it's called protogyny. Only fish and some invertebrates demonstrate sequential hermaphroditism.

Eh... 1 in a 10,000 ... the first hen will change genders. :O Unlikely. If there are no roosters present, since the farmers "hide" the rooster from the hens to get eggs that are not fertilized, will the farmer's hens transform into a rooster then? o-o"
If the chicken cannot change genders.... then how can they change genders when you said 1 in a ten-thousand? :O

Forgot to say that I copy-pasted that from another website.. lol.

But here is my answer after some research:
It depends on what you define as gender. The chromosomes that control the physical differences between male and female are embedded at the moment of fecundation and cannot change.

The sex chromosomes work by programming enzymes that affect the chicken’s development in the egg and during its lifetime. These enzymes are sensitive to temperature. If fertilized eggs (which contains male chromosomes) are cooled down by a few degrees for about two-three days after having been laid, the relative activity of the sex hormones will allow the development of female traits. In about 10% of the cases, this cooling will produce a hen with a functioning, reproductive and fertile female body; even though the chicken is genetically male.

Edit: Oops... deleted the other post, I thought I had double posted... oh well.
Before anyone says you double posted: Before's posts are not double posts, I accidentally deleted my own post.

Metawe wrote:

Before wrote:

Metawe wrote:

Actually the chicken can and does change sex, a well know fact among egg farms. The known occurences happen about every 1 in a 10,000. We have observed an egg-laying hen change into a crowing/breeding rooster. There are numerous explanations for this most having to do with the keeping the species going. But it is observed in egg-laying barns where no roosters have been present that a hen will change.

There are some animals that change sexes, but the chicken isn't one of them. I recall a marine biologist I once met telling me that all very large groupers -- the ones that weigh hundreds of pounds -- are females because only mature specimens can grow that large and all groupers change to females as they mature. It's called sequential hermaphroditism. When males turn into females, it's called protandry, and when it's the other way around, it's called protogyny. Only fish and some invertebrates demonstrate sequential hermaphroditism.

Eh... 1 in a 10,000 ... the first hen will change genders. :O Unlikely. If there are no roosters present, since the farmers "hide" the rooster from the hens to get eggs that are not fertilized, will the farmer's hens transform into a rooster then? o-o"
If the chicken cannot change genders.... then how can they change genders when you said 1 in a ten-thousand? :O

Forgot to say that I copy-pasted that from another website.. lol.

But here is my answer after some research:
It depends on what you define as gender. The chromosomes that control the physical differences between male and female are embedded at the moment of fecundation and cannot change.

The sex chromosomes work by programming enzymes that affect the chicken’s development in the egg and during its lifetime. These enzymes are sensitive to temperature. If fertilized eggs (which contains male chromosomes) are cooled down by a few degrees for about two-three days after having been laid, the relative activity of the sex hormones will allow the development of female traits. In about 10% of the cases, this cooling will produce a hen with a functioning, reproductive and fertile female body; even though the chicken is genetically male.

Edit: Oops... deleted the other post, I thought I had double posted... oh well.
Before anyone says you double posted: Before's posts are not double posts, I accidentally deleted my own post.

it doesnt matter if that one animal of the species change's gender,...since ur alone so you dont have anyone to have sex with, so it doesnt matter what you are.
there for everything would have died,...
myfantasy just suck's at being god, so thats why the other gods made him mortal
F3

shadowfluxx wrote:

Metawe wrote:

Before wrote:

Metawe wrote:

Actually the chicken can and does change sex, a well know fact among egg farms. The known occurences happen about every 1 in a 10,000. We have observed an egg-laying hen change into a crowing/breeding rooster. There are numerous explanations for this most having to do with the keeping the species going. But it is observed in egg-laying barns where no roosters have been present that a hen will change.

There are some animals that change sexes, but the chicken isn't one of them. I recall a marine biologist I once met telling me that all very large groupers -- the ones that weigh hundreds of pounds -- are females because only mature specimens can grow that large and all groupers change to females as they mature. It's called sequential hermaphroditism. When males turn into females, it's called protandry, and when it's the other way around, it's called protogyny. Only fish and some invertebrates demonstrate sequential hermaphroditism.

Eh... 1 in a 10,000 ... the first hen will change genders. :O Unlikely. If there are no roosters present, since the farmers "hide" the rooster from the hens to get eggs that are not fertilized, will the farmer's hens transform into a rooster then? o-o"
If the chicken cannot change genders.... then how can they change genders when you said 1 in a ten-thousand? :O

Forgot to say that I copy-pasted that from another website.. lol.

But here is my answer after some research:
It depends on what you define as gender. The chromosomes that control the physical differences between male and female are embedded at the moment of fecundation and cannot change.

The sex chromosomes work by programming enzymes that affect the chicken’s development in the egg and during its lifetime. These enzymes are sensitive to temperature. If fertilized eggs (which contains male chromosomes) are cooled down by a few degrees for about two-three days after having been laid, the relative activity of the sex hormones will allow the development of female traits. In about 10% of the cases, this cooling will produce a hen with a functioning, reproductive and fertile female body; even though the chicken is genetically male.

Edit: Oops... deleted the other post, I thought I had double posted... oh well.
Before anyone says you double posted: Before's posts are not double posts, I accidentally deleted my own post.

it doesnt matter if that one animal of the species change's gender,...since ur alone so you dont have anyone to have sex with, so it doesnt matter what you are.
there for everything would have died,...
myfantasy just suck's at being god, so thats why the other gods made him mortal
F3

If there is another chicken, they can have eggs.

Metawe wrote:

If there is another chicken, they can have eggs.

He said there is only 1 chicken. O_O''
So, the chicken came first. The end. :D

Before wrote:

Metawe wrote:

If there is another chicken, they can have eggs.

He said there is only 1 chicken. O_O''
So, the chicken came first. The end. :D

No! Let the discussion continue! it shall last until next question. D:

Metawe wrote:

No! Let the discussion continue! it shall last until next question. D:

But... it is solved. :O Looks at the votes in the poll *points*

The Chicken: 10

The Egg: 4

The chicken came first. The end.

no the egg came first since if there was one chicken
i didnt have a sexual counter part to make eggs with,...
there for 2 bird type animals created the first nest
of about 10 eggs or something wich was the beginning
of the chicken race,....

shadowfluxx wrote:

no the egg came first since if there was one chicken
i didnt have a sexual counter part to make eggs with,...
there for 2 bird type animals created the first nest
of about 10 eggs or something wich was the beginning
of the chicken race,....

It would depend on what you define as "chicken". Because the ancestor of the chicken evolved into our current chicken. They might have looked alike and have similar traits, therefore it is impossible to know when was the first chicken created and it leads into this question... It's all up to how you perceive it then.

Metawe wrote:

shadowfluxx wrote:

no the egg came first since if there was one chicken
i didnt have a sexual counter part to make eggs with,...
there for 2 bird type animals created the first nest
of about 10 eggs or something wich was the beginning
of the chicken race,....

It would depend on what you define as "chicken". Because the ancestor of the chicken evolved into our current chicken. They might have looked alike and have similar traits, therefore it is impossible to know when was the first chicken created and it leads into this question... It's all up to how you perceive it then.

but than to anser the question u need to know 2 things
1 what is the deffenition of a chicken
2 from what point did they chicken evolution looked like that
and that is something we dont know,...
so this question simply cant be ansered,...

I voted the Egg
I believe that the egg randomly fell out of nowhere and broke thus revealing the chicken

shadowfluxx wrote:

Metawe wrote:

shadowfluxx wrote:

no the egg came first since if there was one chicken
i didnt have a sexual counter part to make eggs with,...
there for 2 bird type animals created the first nest
of about 10 eggs or something wich was the beginning
of the chicken race,....

It would depend on what you define as "chicken". Because the ancestor of the chicken evolved into our current chicken. They might have looked alike and have similar traits, therefore it is impossible to know when was the first chicken created and it leads into this question... It's all up to how you perceive it then.

but than to anser the question u need to know 2 things
1 what is the deffenition of a chicken
2 from what point did they chicken evolution looked like that
and that is something we dont know,...
so this question simply cant be ansered,...

The ancestor of the chicken is the Red Junglefowl and the Grey Jungleflow. So in fact, it might the egg who came first... But then again, you can consider those two Junglefowl as a chicken since they have very similar traits.

Metawe wrote:

shadowfluxx wrote:

Metawe wrote:

shadowfluxx wrote:

no the egg came first since if there was one chicken
i didnt have a sexual counter part to make eggs with,...
there for 2 bird type animals created the first nest
of about 10 eggs or something wich was the beginning
of the chicken race,....

It would depend on what you define as "chicken". Because the ancestor of the chicken evolved into our current chicken. They might have looked alike and have similar traits, therefore it is impossible to know when was the first chicken created and it leads into this question... It's all up to how you perceive it then.

but than to anser the question u need to know 2 things
1 what is the deffenition of a chicken
2 from what point did they chicken evolution looked like that
and that is something we dont know,...
so this question simply cant be ansered,...

The ancestor of the chicken is the Red Junglefowl and the Grey Jungleflow. So in fact, it might the egg who came first... But then again, you can consider those two Junglefowl as a chicken since they have very similar traits.

so like i said what is the deffinition of a chicken,...
if it can not be given the eggs was first,...
i called it right
*D

shadowfluxx wrote:

Metawe wrote:

shadowfluxx wrote:

Metawe wrote:

shadowfluxx wrote:

no the egg came first since if there was one chicken
i didnt have a sexual counter part to make eggs with,...
there for 2 bird type animals created the first nest
of about 10 eggs or something wich was the beginning
of the chicken race,....

It would depend on what you define as "chicken". Because the ancestor of the chicken evolved into our current chicken. They might have looked alike and have similar traits, therefore it is impossible to know when was the first chicken created and it leads into this question... It's all up to how you perceive it then.

but than to anser the question u need to know 2 things
1 what is the deffenition of a chicken
2 from what point did they chicken evolution looked like that
and that is something we dont know,...
so this question simply cant be ansered,...

The ancestor of the chicken is the Red Junglefowl and the Grey Jungleflow. So in fact, it might the egg who came first... But then again, you can consider those two Junglefowl as a chicken since they have very similar traits.

so like i said what is the deffinition of a chicken,...
if it can not be given the eggs was first,...
i called it right
*D

–noun
A domestic fowl, Gallus domesticus, descended from various jungle fowl of southeastern Asia and developed in a number of breeds for its flesh, eggs, and feathers.

It does mention that it is a descendant from the Jungleflows... but I would still vote the egg. *makes vote cancellation permitted*