Attempt at Usergroup Petition guidelines

Since this is extremely debatable and not hard, cold facts like guides are, I won't type as confidently.
Nope.
Not at all.
No confidence here.

SO, since talk of groups has died in the past few years and only just resurrected, let's set up a few stringent-but-fair guidelines to petition Zeru for a new group.

PLEASE NOTE THAT EVEN IF EVERYTHING I NOTE HERE IS APPLICABLE, IF ZERU (or the Administrator you are petitioning) DOES NOT WANT TO MAKE A GROUP, YOU CANNOT DO A THING ABOUT IT.

Size
A group cannot be one person; that much is certain. Numbers are still being decided, but I propose a 5 member starting-requirement for a group. These people must be verified of their consensus in the creation of a group.

Name
Groups must have an appropriate name. I mean come on, are you sure you want to be remembered on the forums for being on the "Smelly Cow Cud" group?

Entry Requirements

Right, this is where the tricky part begins. This is easily the most ambiguous/controversial topic here.

Entry requirements should have a reason, and the stringency should depend on the group's connotation. If you want to make a group specifically reserved for "Pro" players, that's fine, but you should consider the reasoning behind such an action, and also make entry conditions appropriately stringent.
If you want to create a group for the sake of creating the group, no.

Exceptions should not be allowed in group membership requirements. After all, that would give others the impression we're fickle when in positions of power.

Requirements may be any combination of the following:
- Post Count
- Moderator Point Count (not recommended)
- Warning Points Being > # (DULY not recommended)
- Warning Points Being < # (This actually might be a good idea.)
- Specific Progress in Final Story (This will require applicants to submit a saved game to the group leader and/or his/her confidances. If we catch save duping, there will be PAIN. Otherwise, we may ask specific questions denoting game progress.
- Referrals by admins or people already residing within the group (please don't make this one referral...)


AMENDMENTS:

Insignia
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If you wish to create a group, you must create an appropriate group insignia for it. Metawe did all the current ones (Member, Super Member, Hyper Member, Spammer, Moderator, Administrator) but you must make your own. It MUST be 110 x 20 pixels!
That's all for now. Feel free to post whatever amendments you have in mind, and I'll think about it.

MEMBER COUNT HAS BEEN REDUCED TO 4

Yay groups!

We should consider special custom titles!

The smiley group :D.

>> The group should be made for a good reason or it'll probably be rejected
yep?

You could also add a little "Copy-paste" template.

The fine line that describes "pro" and "amateur", "beginner", or "Veteran". The amount of max rebirths one can get?

Warning points? It sounds painful, but it can be used to group others. :OO ... Not recommended tho.

Ultimately, it's up to Zeru's decision. It's like the chance of getting a usergroup passed:

Mods Vote (out of 15), Usergroup/players vote (out of 10), Admin's decision (out of 15) and Zeru's decision (out of 60).

Since we barely have any mods and Admins, Zeru's decision basically decides it all. C:

There could always be a seperate "Banned" group? :D

Before wrote:

The fine line that describes "pro" and "amateur", "beginner", or "Veteran". The amount of max rebirths one can get?

Warning points? It sounds painful, but it can be used to group others. :OO ... Not recommended tho.

Ultimately, it's up to Zeru's decision. It's like the chance of getting a usergroup passed:

Mods Vote (out of 15), Usergroup/players vote (out of 10), Admin's decision (out of 15) and Zeru's decision (out of 60).

Since we barely have any mods and Admins, Zeru's decision basically decides it all. C:

No, the only thing that's pointless is grouping by mod points. Grouping by warning points is fine, because you can weed troublemakers out.
The way you phrased it, you basically said that seven people voting can overturn Zeru's vote, which just doesn't work like that. You also put an Admin's vote at 15.

Zeru's lenient, and Admins have group-creation abilities as well. As such, unless Zeru's hell-bent on not allowing a group to exist, then Admins have a say as well. As I said, these are guidelines to a PETITION, not a decision.

Maybe something like this:

For every user giving agreement +10
For every admin giving agreement +200
For every user against its creation (must give logical reason) -10
For every Moderator giving agreement +15
For every Moderator against, with logical reason -15
For every admin against -200
For Zeru giving agreement +99999
For Zeru against creation -99999

TOTAL /50
If > 50, then it's a valid petition.
(Used one of my 14 posts for you. >:C)

EDIT: Message structure change

I propose alterations to the Mod Point System.

Antlan's rules:
50 to clear banning record
100 to be a mod (must have clear banning record)
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Spend 1 point to remove 5 Warning Points (this would require 20 to remove 99)

EDIT2: Wow, I just read Antlan's post. I forgot you could report yourself for helpful post.

Oh well, let's wait until this petition post turns TRULY helpful, then I'll report myself. :D

Why make a logical reason for only disagree? someone could agree for a stupid reason.

myfantasy wrote:

Why make a logical reason for only disagree? someone could agree for a stupid reason.

yes, but they should be smart enough to figure out that if they act stupid, they may not get to join the group anyways....